Daily Guild Activities Guide (an analysis by Matt Kreh)

Guild activities are the main source for guild currency.

Guild currency is used to purchase items from the guild shop.

In order to complete the higher tiers, you have to use crystals on refreshes for most days.

If you complete higher tiers on the guild activity, you get a higher reward.

Sounds good, right?

Lets crunch some numbers and see how everything adds up.


In a guild with 50 active players, how much energy does each player need to spend in order to complete tiers 5,6 and 7?

Sunday – Cantina
Tier 5 requirement : 240 cantina energy
Tier 6 requirement : 360 cantina energy
Tier 7 requirement : 480 cantina energy

Monday – Light Side
Tier 5 requirement : 700 normal energy
Tier 6 requirement : 1000 normal energy
Tier 7 requirement : 1400 normal energy

Tuesday – Galactic War
Tier 7 achievable with no crystals used

Wednesday – Hard Nodes
Tier 5 requirement : 700 normal energy
Tier 6 requirement : 1000 normal energy
Tier 7 requirement : 1400 normal energy

Thursday – Challenges
Tier 7 achievable with no crystals used

Friday – Dark Side
Tier 5 requirement : 700 normal energy
Tier 6 requirement : 1000 normal energy
Tier 7 requirement : 1400 normal energy

Saturday – PvP Arena
Tier 7 achievable with no crystals used


On Sunday, the difference between one tier and the next is exactly 1 refresh of cantina energy.

How much guild currency do you gain by moving up to the next tier though?

Lets say you use a 100 crystal refresh before Sunday and save it to move from Tier 5 to Tier 6 payout.
1st place = +116 guild currency = 1.16 guild currency per crystal
2nd place = +107 guild currency = 1.07 guild currency per crystal
3rd place = +97 guild currency = 0.97 guild currency per crystal
4th place = +93 guild currency = 0.93 guild currency per crystal
5th place = +89 guild currency = 0.89 guild currency per crystal
6th place = +87 guild currency = 0.87 guild currency per crystal
7th place = +84 guild currency = 0.84 guild currency per crystal
8th place = +83 guild currency = 0.83 guild currency per crystal
9th place = +81 guild currency = 0.81 guild currency per crystal
10th place = +79 guild currency = 0.79 guild currency per crystal
11-15 place = +71 guild currency = 0.71 guild currency per crystal
16-20 place = +60 guild currency = 0.60 guild currency per crystal
21-30 place = +56 guild currency = 0.56 guild currency per crystal
31-40 place = +48 guild currency = 0.48 guild currency per crystal
41-50 place = +42 guild currency = 0.42 guild currency per crystal

The first cantina refresh on Sunday will cost 100 crystals to move from Tier 6 to Tier 7 payout.
1st place = +126 guild currency = 1.26 guild currency per crystal
2nd place = +116 guild currency = 1.16 guild currency per crystal
3rd place = +106 guild currency = 1.06 guild currency per crystal
4th place = +101 guild currency = 1.01 guild currency per crystal
5th place = +95 guild currency = 0.95 guild currency per crystal
6th place = +93 guild currency = 0.93 guild currency per crystal
7th place = +92 guild currency = 0.92 guild currency per crystal
8th place = +90 guild currency = 0.90 guild currency per crystal
9th place = +88 guild currency = 0.88 guild currency per crystal
10th place = +85 guild currency = 0.85 guild currency per crystal
11-15 place = +77 guild currency = 0.77 guild currency per crystal
16-20 place = +65 guild currency = 0.65 guild currency per crystal
21-30 place = +60 guild currency = 0.60 guild currency per crystal
31-40 place = +51 guild currency = 0.51 guild currency per crystal
41-50 place = +44 guild currency = 0.44 guild currency per crystal

and this is assuming you are using the cheapest 2 refreshes. If you are paying twice as many crystals for these refreshes then just cut the currency/crystal in half again.

Now on to the Monday,Wednesday,Friday challenges.

To reach Tier 5, you can save up 139 energy (@lvl 80). Over the next 24 hours you will generate 240 energy as long as your energy is not full, so we only lack 321 energy from the 700 goal for T5. Lets just say that you refresh 2x for 50 crystals apiece and wait for the free 45 energy to make up the remaining 81 energy that is left.

So you spent 100 crystals to achieve T5 and with all 3 of the free 45 energy activities you are sitting at 754 energy spent.
1st place = +96 guild currency = 0.96 guild currency per crystal
2nd place = +88 guild currency = 0.88 guild currency per crystal
3rd place = +82 guild currency = 0.82 guild currency per crystal
4th place = +78 guild currency = 0.78 guild currency per crystal
5th place = +74 guild currency = 0.74 guild currency per crystal
6th place = +73 guild currency = 0.73 guild currency per crystal
7th place = +72 guild currency = 0.72 guild currency per crystal
8th place = +70 guild currency = 0.70 guild currency per crystal
9th place = +69 guild currency = 0.69 guild currency per crystal
10th place = +67 guild currency = 0.67 guild currency per crystal
11-15 place = +60 guild currency = 0.60 guild currency per crystal
16-20 place = +53 guild currency = 0.53 guild currency per crystal
21-30 place = +49 guild currency = 0.49 guild currency per crystal
31-40 place = +42 guild currency = 0.42 guild currency per crystal
41-50 place = +42 guild currency = 0.42 guild currency per crystal

Moving up to Tier 6 you need an additional 246 energy.
That will take 200 crystals (2x 50 crystal refreshes and 1x 100 crystal refresh) and you will have 1,114 energy spent.
1st place = +116 guild currency = 0.58 guild currency per crystal
2nd place = +107 guild currency = 0.535 guild currency per crystal
3rd place = +97 guild currency = 0.485 guild currency per crystal
4th place = +93 guild currency = 0.465 guild currency per crystal
5th place = +89 guild currency = 0.445 guild currency per crystal
6th place = +87 guild currency = 0.435 guild currency per crystal
7th place = +84 guild currency = 0.42 guild currency per crystal
8th place = +83 guild currency = 0.415 guild currency per crystal
9th place = +81 guild currency = 0.405 guild currency per crystal
10th place = +79 guild currency = 0.395 guild currency per crystal
11-15 place = +71 guild currency = 0.355 guild currency per crystal
16-20 place = +60 guild currency = 0.30 guild currency per crystal
21-30 place = +56 guild currency = 0.28 guild currency per crystal
31-40 place = +48 guild currency = 0.24 guild currency per crystal
41-50 place = +42 guild currency = 0.21 guild currency per crystal

Moving up to Tier 7, you need an additional 286 energy which you can get with 3x 100 crystal refreshes.
After 300 crystals worth of energy, you will have 1,474 energy spent.

1st place = +126 guild currency = 0.42 guild currency per crystal
2nd place = +116 guild currency = 0.387 guild currency per crystal
3rd place = +106 guild currency = 0.353 guild currency per crystal
4th place = +101 guild currency = 0.337 guild currency per crystal
5th place = +95 guild currency = 0.317 guild currency per crystal
6th place = +93 guild currency = 0.31 guild currency per crystal
7th place = +92 guild currency = 0.307 guild currency per crystal
8th place = +90 guild currency = 0.30 guild currency per crystal
9th place = +88 guild currency = 0.293 guild currency per crystal
10th place = +85 guild currency = 0.283 guild currency per crystal
11-15 place = +77 guild currency = 0.257 guild currency per crystal
16-20 place = +65 guild currency = 0.217 guild currency per crystal
21-30 place = +60 guild currency = 0.20 guild currency per crystal
31-40 place = +51 guild currency = 0.17 guild currency per crystal
41-50 place = +44 guild currency = 0.147 guild currency per crystal

Again, this assumes that you spent the bare minimum number of crystals to achieve the minimum energy spending for each tier. If your refreshes cost more than I mentioned then your currency/crystal will be lower than the numbers shown above.  Also, depending on your timezone as opposed to your guild leader’s timezone you may be able to get additional free energy during the activities, but since not everyone can be assumed to get more than 3 in a 24h period I did not factor this in.  It could reduce your crystal cost by 100 crystals if you get 2 more of the 45 free energy during the activity or bank it from the day before.


So now that we can see just how much guild currency we are gaining for each crystal spent, lets look at what you can buy with the guild currency and convert that into its crystal cost equivalent. This is going to be used to calculate the cost of “getting ahead” of players who did not complete that tier.

For this part, I will only compare the 1st place position because it is the best case scenario.
Cantina T6 = +1.16 currency/crystal spent
Cantina T7 = +1.26 currency/crystal spent
Normal T5 = +0.96 currency/crystal spent
Normal T6 = +0.58 currency/crystal spent
Normal T7 = +0.42 currency/crystal spent
We can buy character shards! 400 guild currency gets us 5 shards. That is 80 guild currency per shard.
Cantina T6 = 69 crystals spent per character shard
Cantina T7 = 63 crystals spent per character shard
Normal T5 = 83 crystals spent per character shard
Normal T6 = 137 crystals spent per character shard
Normal T7 = 190 crystals spent per character shard

Some items cost 2970 guild currency for 1 piece.
Cantina T6 = 2560 crystals spent
Cantina T7 = 2357 crystals spent
Normal T5 = 3093 crystals spent
Normal T6 = 5120 crystals spent
Normal T7 = 7071 crystals spent

Some items come in 5 packs for 1650 guild currency. That is 330 guild currency per individual piece.
Cantina T6 = 284 crystals spent
Cantina T7 = 262 crystals spent
Normal T5 = 343 crystals spent
Normal T6 = 568 crystals spent
Normal T7 = 785 crystals spent

These pieces are used either 20 at a time or 50 at a time to make 1 gear item, so how much is it for the completed gear piece?

20 items to craft
Cantina T6 = 5689 crystals spent
Cantina T7 = 5238 crystals spent
Normal T5 = 6875 crystals spent
Normal T6 = 11379 crystals spent
Normal T7 = 15714 crystals spent

and the 50 items to craft gear pieces?
Cantina T6 = 14224 crystals spent
Cantina T7 = 13095 crystals spent
Normal T5 = 17187 crystals spent
Normal T6 = 28448 crystals spent
Normal T7 = 39285 crystals spent

You do get guild currency from other sources like raids, but these calculations are to show just how much of an advantage you are gaining from the additional currency gained at the higher tiers of achievement over players who do not spend the extra crystals in order to reach those higher tiers on the daily guild activity.

Note, you are not paying that many crystals for the pieces above but you have spent that many crystals over time to gain enough extra guild currency to afford the item using only the extra currency gained. This is a way to calculate the price of the advantage you gained by being able to afford gear quicker.

When you spend the crystals on the energy refreshes and then use the energy you get loot from those fights. That loot is what you spent your crystals on. If you were going to spend that many crystals anyways then the guild currency from the daily events is 100% free bonus currency for you. Think of the extra guild currency as a cash back rewards system like your credit card has and it will make more of sense. The guild shop is where you can spend those reward points and the reward points are what can gain you an advantage over those who don’t spend as many crystals.

Note : The crystals spent numbers listed above assumed that you placed 1st on the daily guild activities. If you placed 50th and spent the minimum number of crystals outlined above then you can just about triple the crystal costs listed above because you get about 1/3rd the guild currency increase on the tier improvements compared to the #1 spot while still having the same investment.

Guild Currency numbers came from my spreadsheet which can be found at : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ll9ldPOl2X5PEgRxF-N93a2K9p7iIHnc7KqAhQSsvg8/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=863203302

 

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— Matt Kreh

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